ON BOARD FLIGHT Krakow- ROME - "I looked at the Madonna, and I missed the step. So I dropped, and I was saved." It is a Pope in the form, and not at all dented what explains his fall the other day before the image of the Virgin of Czestochowa shrine. Then Francis becomes serious, and addresses the important issues of the just completed trip. "Islam is not a terrorist. It is not true and it is not fair so identify it. There are fundamentalist groups. For example the so-called Is, the Islamic State, is a fundamentalist entity which presents itself as violent. But I will not speak of Islamist violence because then i should also mention the Catholic violence, to look at the newspapers and see what is going well in Italy.
Instead, you can live well. "
Pope Francis is not prepared to link Islam to terrorism. It clearly says so, preferring instead to distinguish, with great clarity. And so on the recent military coup in Turkey, and the subsequent harsh crackdown: "It is not clear what happened. In the Secretariat of State we are studying. But when the president recently Erdogan had to say things that not to him I was pleased I did. " And then the accusations of pedophilia to Cardinal Pell, Poland, and the next World Youth Day in 2019 in Panama. All topics that the Pope did not prevent the tight repartee with reporters on the flight that yesterday the evening back to Rome from his trip to Krakow.
Holiness, Catholics are in shock, not only in France, after the murder of Father Hamel in Rouen. She reminded us that all religions want peace, but this priest was killed in the name of Islam. Because she always speaks of terrorism without ever mentioning the word "Islam"?
"I do not like to talk of Islamic violence. Every day I leaf through the newspapers and I see violence. In Italy, one kills girlfriend, the other the mother-in-law ... and these are baptized Catholics, Catholics are violent. If I talk of violence i must also mention the Catholic Islamic violence. But not all Muslims are violent, not all Catholics are, do not we make a salad. one thing is true: in almost all religions there is always a small fundamentalist group. we we have . fundamentalism it get to kill and can do with the language, the talk, as the Apostle James says, or with a knife. But I do not think it is right to identify Islam with violence. it's not fair and it's not true. I had a long dialogue with the imam of Al Azhar and I know how they think. they seek peace and the meeting. the nuncio of an African country told me that Muslims crossed the Holy door Jubilee and praying before the Virgin Mary. In Central Africa imam rose on the popemobile with me. You can live well. Sure, there are fundamentalist groups and I wonder, even to me: how many young people that we Europeans have left empty of ideals, without work, go to seek drugs, or enlist in fundamentalist groups ... Yes, we can say that the so-called Is presents itself as an Islamic state and how violent, this is a fundamentalist entity called is. But you can not say, it is not true and it is not fair to say that Islam is a terrorist. "
And as a concrete initiative may initiate and suggest to counter Islamist violence?
"Terrorism is everywhere. Think of tribal terrorism in some African countries. I do not know if you say, is a bit 'dangerous, but terrorism grows even when there is another option in a world that focuses on economy the god of money and not the person, man and woman. This is already the terror, a terrorist base against all humanity. Think about it. "
For almost all the international observers the repression of the coup in Turkey was the worst of the coup. It is in fact followed a purge, which affected many categories: military, judges, teachers, diplomats, journalists. President Erdogan said, responding to external protests: do you think your own business. Because so far Your Holiness has not spoken? Fears repercussions on Catholic minority?
"When I had to say something that did not like Turkey, but of which I was sure, I said, with the consequences we know (the words about the Armenian genocide, note). Now I have not spoken because they are not sure yet what. I listen to the information that comes in the Secretariat of State, also some important analyst, I am studying the situation and it is not yet clear. it is true that you must avoid evil Catholics. But not at the price of truth. C ' it is the virtue of prudence, but when you are witnesses that I have said something that touched Turkey, I said it. "
Australia is investigating allegations the car- dinal George Pell, it is called abuse. Given the serious situation and the place it occupies, what would be the right thing to do for him?
"The first news arrived were confused, went up to forty years ago, not even the police at first did not notice. In this moment the complaints are in the hands of justice. And you must not judge before the Justice judge. If I give a judgment for or against Cardinal Pell would not be good, because I would judge before. there is no doubt and that clear legal principle in dubio pro reo. But we must wait for justice and not make a judgment or media chatter, because that does not help. once that justice speaks, I'll talk. "
What impression has had in Poland?
"Special. Krakow is so beautiful. The people excited."
And Panama, where there will be the World Youth Day of 2019?
"You have to prepare well how they prepared the Poles."
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